Wednesday, January 16, 2013

How will Jesus who is part of the trinity be subject to to himself?

Q. 1 Cor 15:28
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. NIV

Will God be subject to himself ?

A. Excellent.
Impossible for trinity belief, makes half the bible a lie.
That's impossible, also, John 8:28-32; John 17:17, the truth is so very important. Heb.4:12.

What textbooks does Trinity college of Univerisity of Melbourne use?
Q. My brother is going to study in Trinity college of University of Melbourne soon, and he will be in the foundation Studies. He wants to study ahead of Mathematics and English. There are Math 1A, 1B, and 2. Here is a list of all the courses:

* Mathematics 1A or 1B

* Mathematics 2

* Accounting

* Biology

* Chemistry

* Economics

* Environment and Development

* Media and Communications

* Music (Practical)

* Music History

* Physics

* Psychology

If you studied there before and know some of those textbooks, please help my brother! He will start on Feb! Thank You!

A. Books change with semester and with whomever is teaching the course. The two sources are the Uni Bookstore and the Department/Professor who teaches these courses. Contact both. There are literally hundreds of books in each of those areas.

Is there any spiritual,scriptual conformation or manifestation anywhere in the bible of the trinity ?
Q. I just can't find the trinity anywhere in the bible.
Doug
Your so right , I don't even know how to use scriptures in any of my questions or answers .
So Doug why don't you use one in you answer ?
Note no answer so far proves a 3 in 1 God just two beings that are united in belief & purpose.
Johan
And that from someone who thinks they know Jesus but don't know his past , prove Jesus was not Micheal.

A. RE Is there any spiritual,scriptual conformation or manifestation anywhere in the bible of the trinity ?

Yes.


RE I just can't find the trinity anywhere in the bible.

From your posts here, it's hard to believe that you have read the Bible.



RE Rockyroad

D'OH! Don't confuse him with reality!






Doug
Your so right , I don't even know how to use scriptures in any of my questions or answers .

Thanks for admitting the obvious.



RE So Doug why don't you use one in you answer ?Note no answer so far proves a 3 in 1 God just two beings that are united in belief & purpose.


Others have and you ignore them. But what the heck? Here goes-

In the first chapter of the first book of the Bible it says that Elohim ("the Gods") created man in their own image. Who are these Gods? The rest of the Bible goes on to explain who They are. If you had read and understood the Bible you would know. I can't post the entire Bible text here. Even if I could, I couldn't make you read it and understand it. I suggest you pray, read it, study it, study the language, and study the culture. Once you are born again and baptized in the Holy Spirit then you will start to understand it. God bless.


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.............and my answer gets ignored so it was apparently a waste of my time.

But that's OK........

How could followers of Jesus be called Christians if they did not know about the trinity?
Q. In Acts 11:26 we are told the disciples of Jesus were called Christians first in Antioch.

If this be so, how could they be called Christians who knew nothing of the Trinity which did not become defined until the fifth century?

Acts 11:26 Douay-Rheims Bible
26 And they conversed there in the church a whole year; and they taught a great multitude, so that at Antioch the disciples were first named Christians.

A. What an excellent question! You are right, the trinity is NOT a Bible teaching! God's name is Jehovah (Psalm 83:18) He sent his son, Jesus Christ, a perfect man, to buy back what Adam lost for all mankind. (John 3:16; Mark 10:45; Genesis 3:17-19; Romans 5:12) The holy spirit is God's active force and not a person.

A comparison of Bible texts that refer to the holy spirit shows that it is spoken of as âfillingâ people; they can be âbaptizedâ with it; and they can be âanointedâ with it. (Luke 1:41; Matt. 3:11; Acts 10:38) None of these expressions would be appropriate if the holy spirit were a person.
Jesus also referred to the holy spirit as a âhelperâ (Greek, pa·raâ²kle·tos), and he said that this helper would âteach,â âbear witness,â âspeak,â and âhear.â (John 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:13) It is not unusual in the Scriptures for something to be personified. For example, wisdom is said to have âchildren.â (Luke 7:35) Sin and death are spoken of as being kings. (Rom. 5:14, 21) While some texts say that the spirit âspoke,â other passages make clear that this was done through angels or humans. (Acts 4:24, 25; 28:25; Matt. 10:19, 20; compare Acts 20:23 with 21:10, 11.) At 1 John 5:6-8, not only the spirit but also âthe water and the bloodâ are said to âbear witness.â So, none of the expressions found in these texts in themselves prove that the holy spirit is a person.
The correct identification of the holy spirit must fit all the scriptures that refer to that spirit. With this viewpoint, it is logical to conclude that the holy spirit is the active force of God. It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will.âPs. 104:30; 2 Pet. 1:21; Acts 4:31.


The Bible has been written for our benefit; so, we should be able to understand what is in it. (Isaiah 48:17, 18; 2 Timothy 3:16)

Worldwide, Jehovah's Witnesses are following the command to, "Go...and make disciples of people of all the nations...teaching them to observe all the things" Jesus has commanded. (Matthew 28:19, 20) If you would like a free home Bible study, contact your local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses for a free home Bible study. (Isaiah 43:10-12; Matthew 10:8b)

You will be able to learn about the good news of God's kingdom that is in heaven that will soon reign over the entire earth. (Daniel 2:44; Matthew 24:14; Matthew 6:9, 10)

How come there is not a single statement in the whole bible of God being a trinity ?
Q. "Christendom" today has degenerated to a belief in four gods, three good ones and one evil one. Some parts of Christendom have five gods, as the Roman Catholic Church, which has added a "Mother of God" who is in their system of belief the supreme deity beside a host of demi-gods, one for every day of the year (and more), all of which mythical and man-invented deities are worshipped and prayed to.

A. You're absolutely right - the Trinity is a false doctrine. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about God, Jesus and the holy spirit being one, we have proof in John 17:3, where it says "the Only True God, and the one he sent forth, Jesus Christ." There is a clear distinction. Some scriptures may seem to contradict this, like the one where Jesus says "He who has seen me has seen the Father also" - but this doesn't mean God and Jesus are the same person. They have a father-son relationship - they are very similar to each other & share the same qualities, so it's like looking at a mirror image. But they are clearly 2 different beings. Same with the holy spirit, this is the active force God uses to accomplish his purposes, not a part of a Trinity.

Cheers :)




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